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iranianatheist asked: You seem to love the bible, let me know what you think of these bible verses (Old & New Testament). Deuteronomy 22: 28-29 says Rape a virgin, then pay the father off & she is your wife, Exodus 21: 7-8 says: Sell your daughter, she becomes a slave to her master, 1 Corinthians 14:34 says: Women are not allowed to speak in Church Deuteronomy 22:20-21 says Kill Women Who Are Not Virgins On Their Wedding Night, 1 Timothy 2:12 says Women are not allowed to teach.. Now you know how much god loves you
Thanks very much for your input but I think Jesus dying on the cross tells me much more about how much God loves me.
Hello thatkliqkid: Good answer, but let me help you out a little more in addressing the grossly inaccurate and bigoted comments addressed against the Bible and God.
Deuteronomy 22:28-29 is not speaking of rape as we define it today, but of the man who takes advantage of a young woman and has intercourse with her and then wants to dump her and take off and brag to his friends about a “conquest.” The Bible says he is to marry her and unlike other married men, he is never allowed to dump her/divorce her.
Deuteronomy 22:25 speaks of the actual crime of rape. It is to be punished with DEATH.
Exodus 27:7. Sometimes the destitute poor sold their children into slavery. Daughters of foreign tribes were carried off and the masters did whatever they wanted with them. This part of the Law commands that a Hebrew girl must be sold only to a Hebrew man. The man has a certain time to keep her and then he was supposed to marry her or give her the rights of a wife. If that time came up and he didn’t want to do that, he couldn’t just toss her on the street or sell her to a non-Hebrew but only a Hebrew family.
1 Corinthians 14:34. Timothy 2:12. Ah yes, the favorite quotes about women not preaching nor (Timothy) having authority over men in the Church. Can we have some context please? Did you say yes? Thank you, I thought you’d never ask.
The Corinthian church had problems of disorderly outbursts (read the REST of the letter), and there were questions about the role of preaching and apostolic authority and if women were called to this office in the church assembly. People would get up, out of turn, and begin to prophesy or go on in tongues that no one could understand. It was disruptive and led to the divisions which St. Paul had to rebuke.
In the case of women, especially those who were married, it would have made for more than awkward tensions with their husbands. Because if a married woman is getting up and fighting in church, especially with another married woman, and the husbands have to defend their wives which means getting mad at other men who are telling the women to sit down and be quiet, then pretty soon you have chaos.
The Apostle in other epistles invited ALL the Christians to speak to God in psalms, hymns and inspired songs. And obviously they were speaking in tongues or interpreting them because Corinthians does not say these gifts were only restricted to men. But the tension came with exercising a priestly or apostolic function.
The Church discerned that this was not a call which women were given by the Lord Jesus. So, by saying women were not to teach or preach, or be domineering over the men in the assembly, the Church was fine-tuning its understanding of leadership within the church’s liturgy. That doesn’t mean that women did not take charge of charity, religious education, visitations to the sick, prison ministry, looking after widows or orphans, youth ministry, or even management of church finances along with their deacon husbands.
Okay, I hope this gives some context to these Bible quotes. Deuteronomy addressed a social injustice (seducing and impregnating girls and then not taking any responsibility), Exodus dealt with a fairer treatment of female slaves so that the Hebrew community would always try to look out for them (unlike foreign tribes which beat and killed them like animals), and Corinthians and Timothy is trying to alleviate some of the disorder in the church congregation that led to marital tensions (and the church was always concerned about happy marriages and stable families). God bless and take care! Fr. Angel